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Problems with black people. the russians did not make her say super predators. the russians did not make bernie sanders say all live matter. so i think as problematic as foreign intervention is, it is a reflection of pre-existing problems and democrats need to be aware heading into 2020, to not let this happen again. >> let's take a look at one of the memes the russians put othere in social media. it's about voter discouragement, about trying to grab onto those elements, attach points jason was just mentioning and in any way they possibly can, discouraging the black vote from turning out. when...

Super predators. african-americans have always had specific issues with hillary clinton, but the language super predators, it was a way they wanted to simply phi whfy what clinton meant to african-americans. they are benefitting from some of the things russia is doing, even if the democracy is suffering. >> yeah, joe, if you look at the big picture, republicans are treating russian interference about a political issue. they're saying quiet bit because it helped their guy. but that's incredibly short sided because next time it won't be your guy or your woman, it will be the other side's. there ...

Know, that comes at us from state and local governments and since the trump elication even from the federal government. now what we're learning is we have to face voter suppression efforts by foreign governments. >> joining our discussion now richard stengel and jason johnson, politics editor. both are msnbc contributors. and jason, your reaction to these two reports and the targeting of black voters. >> i'm not surprised, lawrence. i mean this has been going on for a while. you have prominent members of black twitter who have said for years you have these sort of hostile bots going after acti...

For our state. so, that same language is being used on both sides. you just saw hillary clinton last week suggesting all black people look the same. you saw hillary clinton and bill clinton create what i call the classroom to prison pipeline under bill clinton's watch 200,000 more black men and women went to prison. and hillary clinton referred to young black menace super predators. so when you start to look at this language, i don't find that to be true of new hampshire. i find that to be true of certain political figures who were democrats in the state of new hampshire. new hampshire isn't a...

He's trying to do something a big bro would do. >> most of the people caught up in the criminal justice system aren't the hardened criminals we imagine. too many are kids who just did something stupid like tommy or i did in high school. the puppeteers of the system would prefer that we see these kids as super predators, thugs or animals to be caged. >> thank you for having me. >> i have some misgivings about government's effectiveness and wisdom, but government doesn't get everything wrong. every now and again it will get something right. one thing it did get right is it adopted policies in th...