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With a family, you can transform their behavior. but putting them out and perpetrating the school to prison pipeline, when we do that, we in education are part of the problem. and the fact that it starts so early is sad. >> secretary, let me jump in there. if you saw in sara's story there, it seems to intimate there was a reflection on racism as a society. that true? is it part of a racial problem in america as the story contends? >> so this is -- let me be very clear there are clear racial disparities in the use of out-of-school suspension and expulsions that is a real challenge. it is racism...

Whatever. it doesn't matter frankly to me. what does matter is we better train, equip adults to deal with these issues and take step likes the l.a. school system has been courageous enough to do to better support students who are struggling. so i've been to high schools that historically were very violent, had all kinds of challenges where adults are actually relinquishing giving up some of their power, moving towards peer juries, moving towards peer mediation and empowering the teenagers themselves to take ownership, take control of the culture in the schools. and guess what? incidents of dis...