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Party. and i can tell you that before the election there were republicans who knew, because there were rumors out there, this guy is shady, we don't really know about him. we don't know of everything he is saying is true -- >> are you talking about santos or trump? which one are you talking about? [laughter] >> i'm talking about the more recent case, which is george santos. and republicans went ahead and look the other way. and many actually ended up supporting this guy. so the party does have to reevaluated standards now, hopefully, as donald trump fades in the backroom mirror and it's just a...

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I'm sure larry felt upset about that. he is a gentleman. but the president had no problem with any of that. having all these people think he is reporting to him but it's not clear and playing off each other. and they're the new guy so they're the favorite. how long does it last? >> i'm not sure any of that was deliberate. what happened is i think the president changed his mind of the policy of the russian sanctions that had been briefed to nikki haley. she goes out and dually talks about them. she feels she was thrown under the bus. >> she was thrown under the bus. so she pushesback against la...

$5 trillion and more for president obama in just 3 1/2 years. i have other figures that show that as a percentage of the economy, spending has gone to all-time record high levels in the three years of president obama. it is tough to argue against those hard numbers. >>reporter: you are right. those numbers you cited are accurate. and the fact of the matter is, this president, president obama, has added more to the national debt than his predecessor, rebound. however, what the white house is trying to argue is that you have to look beyond that surface service and look at the fact of what caused...