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He sees divisions between europe and the u.s. this is the time to act. >> quick final question. guys like putin, they seem either to be in office, in jail, or dead. is it all about him asserting his strength and therefore trying to hold on to the office? >> i think this is part of his legacy. i think he's definitely firmed up his control. there are no real contestants for power there in the short term. he does eventually have to identify a successor. right now, the question is what is his legacy? is he the gathering of lands, is he the one rebuilding the russian empire? is he the one retaining...

Revolution of dignity, and then the assault on ukraine. it's consolidated the ukrainian national identity, and he thought he had done enough by taking bites out of ukraine, large chunks. that was wrong. ukraine has continued to make progress. and now he's trying to see if he can keep it. it's slipping through his fingers. >> you're the perfect -- you're the perfect person. i have something on my mind and you're the perfect person to ask because no one knows the dynamics as between the american government, ukraine, and russia like you do for the reasons i mentioned in your introduction. so here...

Thought he had done enough by taking bites out of ukraine, large chunks. that was wrong. ukraine has continued to make progress. and now he's trying to see if he can keep it. it's slipping through his fingers. >> you're the perfect -- you're the perfect person. i have something on my mind and you're the perfect person to ask because no one knows the dynamics as between the american government, ukraine, and russia like you do for the reasons i mentioned in your introduction. so here's the question. if putin really wants to invade ukraine, why wouldn't he have done it on donald trump's watch? >>...