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But you know what -- let me make two responses. first, look, i think it is mighty refreshing to voters you have a president who comes into office and keeps his promises. bill, he is keeping a promise here. do i agree with the policy? no. it is admirable that he is doing what he said he would do. when i was a kid in the early 1970s, my parents took me to michigan. we went to some of the steel mills. we went to the auto factories. those were old sweat shops with thousands of workers. you're right. you go to those factories today where you might have had 2,000 workers, today you have 100 workers ...

Us. what is the latest in the investigation into these 10 human trafficking deaths over the weekend? >> well, the investigation is ongoing, and i think this is an example of how terrible these human smugglers are and the need to focus intelligence resources against these kingpin human smugglers that are bringing people back and forth. the loss of any life is terrible, and for this to have happened in this sickening way is unconscionable. but we have to make sure we get board of security right, we have to fix our broken immigration system so this type of stuff doesn't happen again. >> we know t...

Let children work. that sounds awful. >> child labor might be awful but prohibiting it is worse. we don't make people better off when we take away their least bad options. the children's families are poor. if you ban sweat shops you don't get rid of the poverty you eliminate that one option they have that makes it not as bad as it would be. >> so no laws against it? >> when we were developing we had no laws against it and the process of economic development took care of it itself. in the united states we didn't have a? national child labor law until 1938. it follows the economic development an...

Want to go to war with job providers, institutions and organizations creating jobs. we want to go to war with them. >> the jobs aren't good jobs unless they are union jobs in the minds of democrats. that's how they behave. if it's not a union job, it's not a job worth having. it's about control. it's shocking that this decision at the national labor relations board could up end industry. it could up end the entire franchise model in this country with one decision. >> think about what the labor movement was based on. someone from a union household and i like unions. people working in sweat shop...

84% of fast food workers in new york report being victims of wage theft. tell us how you won this case and what the hurdles were. >> it is a settlement, alex. the case began when carlos and some other workers went to the national mobilization against sweat shops. they brought us the case when it was time to take legal action. carlos was one of the original plaintiffs. it was filed with ten workers. we gave notice to the class. more workers joined and ultimately 61 workers will be getting compensation in the settlement. >> carlos, one of the things i think people don't understand is you're work...