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But there is something dehumanizing about swipe left, swipe right. like people are baseball cards you're tossing around. it is in your phone. like a video game but there are people attached to it. am i wrong to feel unnerved by that? >> what would you do when you go to a party and you're looking to meet somebody? you're kind of doing the same process in your head. it's not sort of -- >> you're doing the same thing. >> maybe more subconsciously than that. >> can you imagine a world in which we evolved the social norms where you make a finger swipe x like physically in front of people? >> it wou...

The "vanity fair." but there is something dehumanizing about swipe left, swipe right. like people are baseball cards you're tossing around. it is in your phone. like a video game but there are people attached to it. am i wrong to feel unnerved by that? >> what would you do when you go to a party and you're looking to meet somebody? you're kind of doing the same process in your head. it's not sort of -- >> you're doing the same thing. >> maybe more subconsciously than that. >> can you imagine a world in which we evolved the social norms where you make a finger swipe x like physically in front o...

Voting and voting protection but what's going on in the country right now is about how to take those rights away. >> you do expand it because you give access to people in a different way. think about swipe left, swipe right. it could be an interesting thing. >> if voter i.d. were about voter disenfranchisement why was african-american turnout greater in 2012? it has had zero effect on turnout. >> because people were angry and decided to exercise their right to vote. >> that's the point. this is about voter mobilization. this is about playing to the identity politics of democrats who father who...

Greatest pieces of legislation in our history. the question is how are we going to change voting. we're talking about bitcoin or currency. all these things will change drastically. it will be interesting around vote somethiing is how voters b empowered using the phones and digital means because -- >> vote something a very interesting question. it's now done in some small -- >> we're going to do it, period. >> it's going to come in time and it will increase turnout. also in primaries. which more the -- >> but what if this were a conversation about how we expand voting and voting protection but ...