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Of which, of course, a lot of the cities of ukraine have been massively damaged. the russians have not yet opened up their full campaign. kyiv is being hit but not by thousands of rounds a day of millimeter and rockets. this is going to get worse before better. i think zelenskyy should be at 100% support out of the administration and is. there are things we can do to further intensify the pressure on the russians. this switch blade 600 is a magic cystism. we've been reluctant to threat russians see what it can do. the may well be an ability to transfer s 300 antiair systems, which can hit crui...

Capabilities used extensively by the azerbaijanis in the recent war with armenia back in 2020 to great effect against the armenian armor. but instead, what we've seen in this particular conflict with the russians is they haven't really used drones at all which surprised us because the russians have been investing heavily in drones. i think what you will see with switch blade is the ukrainians getting a very effective loitering munition capability they can use to great effect against russian armor. >> so it -- ukrainians i guess have been using them more so, is that right? and in the case of th...

>> jim, i think you've got it exactly right. they're flexing their muscles, they're not running out of regular missiles knocked down by air defense. i think that message is being sent as much to nato as to ukraine. this is the first use of hypersonic weapons inside a conflict. russians know we don't have them fully online, china does. i think the message is not that they want to precisely attack specific targets but they're sending a clear message to nato and in general in the united states in particular that they're willing to ramp it up and have weapons we can't stop at this point. >> and i ...

Administration a list of requests. that list includes equipment like armed drones, anti-ship missiles, off-the-shelf electronic jamming equipment and surface-to-air missiles, but also more of what the united states has already been providing, more of those stinger anti-aircraft missiles, more javelin anti-tank weapons. nbc's intelligence ken delaney is behind this reporting and we're joined by jason beardsly, national executive director of the association of the u.s. navy. ken, you laid out that list in your reporting. you also drill into a very specific kind of drone that the biden administra...

Situations. this is the kind of weaponry they have been asking for, not everything they have been asking for. how much of a difference will it make? >> candidly i think it will make little difference. the switch blade is basically a hand grenade, a weapon about that big with wings on it. what will make a difference is at 4 weapons they're bringing in significant numbers. they're like javelins but for short range and city fighting. only good for about 300 meters, but they will stop a tank inside a city and i think that's where the fight is going. >> and russia struck in the western part of the ...