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Cover-up, one big line we know the original police report said mr. gray was taken into custody without incidence or force. that's fiction. so again, we have to wonder what is it that these six police officers don't want us to know? >> certainly without incident right? the big debate is over force and i guess, ari, so let's combine the information that we have today. one is this new information about a second stop. another is the outstanding professor butler points out, the outstanding search warrant for the uniform that one of the officers was wearing when he took freddie gray into custody whi...

Any clarification on what he was being arrested for? >> absolutely not. if you read the application of statement of charges that was written at the time, and really what that is is that's a statement of the probable cause that the police officer believes that he has at the time the application for statement of charges simply states that they made eye contact, that freddie ran, that the police officers followed him and apprehended him and then once they had apprehended him, apprehending meaning laid hands on him and had custody, they say that they found a knife that they say is a switchblade. w...

They put him in handcuffs. they found a switchblade on him. however, there's nothing necessarily illegal about having a switchblade on you. it still remains unclear why he was placed under arrest. he was placed in the back of a police van wearing shackles. at some point that police van stopped twice. they say to fill out paperwork. and by the time the police van got to its destination, freddie gray was paralyzed with his spinal cord severed and within a week he was dead. that led to peaceful protests at first and now they are getting more and more violent by the day. and today, it erupted in l...

That there's no probable cause. that's the crux of this. why did they stop him? you just don't stop someone because they look you in the eyes and run, right? as people would call it, running while black. i don't know the circumstances surrounding -- i don't think any of us know the circumstances surrounding it, why they stopped him for sure. they're saying they saw a weapon. they saw weapon after they stopped him. so that's going to be the thing. why did they stop him, and what was the probable cause? >> i think they're saying they saw the weapon before they stopped him. that's in the report. ...

There had been report of possibly seeing the clip of a switchblade in his pocket or of a knife. exactly what is required for probable cause? >> you don't need probable cause to make a stop u. need what is called reasonable suspicion. and the officers' reasonable suspicion based on what i read is they saw a clip for the knife in his front pocket. that is their story. okay. so based on that they made a stop. he ran. and the officers engaged him. >> sonny, do you buy that? mark gehrig os last night said maybe we saw that and then later on see that. >> i rarely agree with mark gehrig os but you wo...