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Shallow waters off new york. investigators used one in 2009 when air france flight 447 went down in the atlantic but found nothing. if they have any luck locating the pinger from flight 370, next they'll deploy this autonomous underwater vehicle. it maps the ocean floor. >> it will start running patterns back and forth, shooting sound out the side and taking pictures. it will show objects, shiny objects basically, bright objects that could be the plane. >> reporter: right now, that's the perfect scenario. but even the head of the search effort seems to be hedging his bets. >> hopefully, hopefu...

Up until this point we've been told that it will probably just be used once they found debris, once they had a greater sense of an area to search. interesting that you suggest that maybe they need to start using it right now. sylvan, that make sense to you? >> absolutely. i mean, you can put everything you have under water because time is running out. so i would do exactly the same thing. >> you also, sylvan, say that you think that this is all right now obviously based on data, the analysis of the data. right now there's just a big math problem being solved by smart people in a room. do you t...

Traditional way of thinking you'd wait until you heard -- picked up the pinger locater, then deploy that. but i'm thinking if we have faith in that area, as big as it is, it can't really hurt anything to get that vehicle in the water, get some operational expertise in that area, see what you see, and start crossing areas off where the plane isn't. and i think that's important information now. so i think it can be valuable. but you don't want to burn out the teams, either. they want to be pretty judicious. the one thing i have to say is that once this gets going full speed, both vehicles in the...

If they have any luck locating the pinger from flight 370, next they'll deploy this autonomous underwater vehicle. it maps the ocean floor. >> it will start running patterns back and forth, shooting sound out the side and taking pictures. it will show objects, shiny objects basically, bright objects that could be the plane. >> reporter: right now, that's the perfect scenario. but even the head of the search effort seems to be hedging his bets. >> hopefully, hopefully, the calculations putting us into about the right area. >> reporter: randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> our thanks to randi. joining ...

Hour. passenger on the train took pictures of that burning bucket, what appears to be a 5 gallon or whatever the equivalent size is in metric, the white plastic bucket. sylvan, you are okay, right? >> caller: i'm fine, thanks. >> good. good. that's a little bit of good news in a bad situation. tell us what your experience was, please. >> caller: i was on the train with my phone. when you looked, there was some flames. and people started to run and to rush outside the train. it was a bomb, a homemade bomb. >> did you hear an explosion?