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Jobs. we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. martha: don't forget that bill clinton did very well for this president at his convention. but there is karl rove's tweet. the twittersphere was going braisey last night. karl rove said, mr. obama, you're not bill clinton. bill: what did charles think. syndicated column tonight charles krauthammer said there was a clear winner. >> romney won big. he won by two touchdowns. when he steps on the statement gives him stature. when he performs like romney did it changes the mow men tim. bill: krauthammer went on to say one debate w...

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All over the country. three of them in california. 27 considering bankruptcy or other moves. with that, bring in the panel. welcome new panelist tonight, pat buchanan. writes syndicated column, long-time conservative commentator and former presidential advisor and candidate as well. thank you. juan williams, columnist with the hill. syndicated columnist, of course, charles krauthammer. pat, what do you think of the cities declaring bankruptcy and how it plays? >> it's a crisis. crisis of the public sector, which is in america and europe. state level, national level and state and locate level. ...

By all accounts, most of them, the vast majority of them are very impresssive bunch. is that agency now tainted forever, do you think, or do they recover from this? >> well, the jury is still out. that's a really good question. they'll recover from it if it's not a cultural problem. if they stand up to it, if we don't start hearing about similar incidents in other cities and other parts of the world. if we do, if they start finding other similar instances, then the agency is sadly going to be tainted. i have to tell you, my own experience, these are some of the hardest working, most courageous...

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