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We don't have much time to be able to make transformational, systemic change in people's lives. and it's like they're not -- democrats and republicans are not playing the same game right now. >> so i hear what you're saying. i completely respect it, and like i get your frustration. but at the same time, i think there has to be the understanding throughout the whole country that change is -- the kind of change that we're looking for, it doesn't happen overnight. >> absolutely. >> also some of this change, biden can't do. >> i would push back against my friends on the democratic side who are kin...

About it before we got out here and started talking, we had to pick a person that could beat trump, we had to get in first, right? but he's done a lot, in what you're saying up here, we're starting to come together, we're starting to have these conversations, we're acting like mature people again. i can sit next to him and we can talk and not hate each other, right? you can't just hit reset, you can't just say everything is fixed overnight, you can't be extreme. we have to still cater to the old white guys. i get what you're saying and i feel it and i want to do it too. but how? >> i don't und...

You saw the video, he said to be public, "i don't see murder here." he saw the video, he said to be public, "i don't see murder here." and that was totally disturbing to people. all of us laypeople saw murder and they wanted it charged appropriately, so i think it does matter that there is some kind of multi—racial coalition. the only concern is that will white americans think this verdict is the end or will they think it is a beginning? and for me, in my research, if we have not changed policy, if we have not changed how officers are held accountable, this is just a symbolic victory and we ...

Wanted it charged appropriately. i think it matters. the only concern is will white americans think this verdict is the end or will they think it is the beginning? for me and my research if we have not changed policy, this isjust a symbolic victory and we need systemic change. symbolic victory and we need s stemic chance. ., ., , systemic change. unfortunately we have run out _ systemic change. unfortunately we have run out of— systemic change. unfortunately we have run out of time, _ systemic change. unfortunately we have run out of time, so _ systemic change. unfortunately we have run out ...