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9:in the morning i believe. is this being guilty because of who you are, where you are. and of course to be fair to the police, they have a very tough job. these are high-crime neighborhoods. they have rights, as well in terms of how they are -- now that this is an investigation, in terms of what can be revealed. the officers have the right to a fair hearing, a fair process, a fair investigation. but again, it all just to some people -- this endemic, systemic problem, it creates more frustration, more doubt, more suspicion that the police are being -- being fully transparent now that they're g...

Felt that these armored vehicles that he was criticized for helped protect police officers because it allowed them to have these large bullet proof shields that they could get behind in case of danger. last night we saw a case where they didn't have these vehicles and they were simply in a line in front of the police department and it made them tragically targets of whoever these shooters were. >> danny, the police chief has stepped down. i know a lot of folks there were happy about that. when you have an institutional problem as the doj report pointed out, having an individual step down doesn...

Problems here? i'm joined now by montel williams, 22 year marine veteran and emmy award winning talk show host. >> thanks for having me. >> last week you said firing secretary shinseki wasn't going to cut it. what more do you think they should be doing? >> let's put it in context. i know the top head has to come off but we have to look and everybody said the same thing, systemic problem didn't start with president obama, this has been a problem for the last 30 years. we need to stop the reviewing and waiting for reviews and reports to come in to take action today. the president can take action...

With mental health that would be important. when we have the sequester debate, we hear, well, here's the actual reality we're creating with long-term cuts when we need more support. what do you think politically is the wall or separation here from those realities and stories actually translating into some action? >> i think the problem honest hi is we wait until there is a tremendous horrific tragedy to act. in virginia, for instance, after the virginia tech massacre, there was a ton of funding poured into the state, $42 million. then over the next couple of years because of the recession and ...

Question that the differentiation in roles and the way we see those roles reflects everything we talked about for the previous hour we've been on, what kind of society do we live in, who gets prosecuted in court, who is there, who gets jail terms, who goes to prison for life for minor crimes. have you to understand that system within the democratic system we have, competition for resources for all the other important things, education and housing and all the others. people don't like people accused of crime. politicians don't get re-elected by making big, good statements about people. so it's ...