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Is standing on the skid running the hoist and basically putting us into position, he's been at it for about an hour. the winds have really kicked up. >> the chopper's whirling blades add to the turbulence. >> wow. it is pretty scary in itself, that wind that's also being created. >> i'm like a yo-yo. i'm at the mercy of my systems operator who is lowering and raising the cable and also the helicopter pilot who has to hold that helicopter in steady position in those winds. >> all the time the rescue's going on, other rafters keep whooshing merrily by. >> you see these people kayaking by, raftin...

Is standing on the skid running the hoist and basically putting us into position, he's been at it for about an hour. the winds have really kicked up. >> the chopper's whirling blades add to the turbulence. >> wow. it is pretty scary in itself, that wind that's also being created. >> i'm like a yo-yo. i'm at the mercy of my systems operator who is lowering and raising the cable and also the helicopter pilot who has to hold that helicopter in steady position in those winds. >> all the time the rescue's going on, other rafters keep whooshing merrily by. >> you see these people kayaking by, raftin...

They position the chopper, and this time, deputy don mcadoo makes the drop. by now, he has an additional challenge to deal with. >> my pilot was a little bit fatigued. my systems operator, kevin, who is standing on the skid running the hoist and basically putting us into position, he's been at it for about an hour. the winds have really kicked up. >> the chopper's whirling blades add to the turbulence. >> wow. it is pretty scary in itself, that wind that's also being created. >> i'm like a yo-yo. i'm at the mercy of my systems operator who is lowering and raising the cable and also the helicop...

By now, he has an additional challenge to deal with. >> my pilot was a little bit fatigued. my systems operator, kevin, who is standing on the skid running the hoist and basically putting us into position, he's been at it for about an hour. the winds have really kicked up. >> the chopper's whirling blades add to the turbulence. >> wow. it is pretty scary in itself, that wind that's also being created. >> i'm like a yo-yo. i'm at the mercy of my systems operator who is lowering and raising the cable and also the helicopter pilot who has to hold that helicopter in steady position in those winds....

Member leaves that's a good policy because you now have somebody. but the problem is is that if i'm intent on doing some harm and i have a flight attendant sitting there, i may be able to get up disable, or render them incapacitated and still accomplish the mission. it may be difficult but i think that you know that part of the security aspect is going to have to be looked at and scrutinized. >> what would you do? >> what's the option? >> what is the way to make us safe? >> i think the only way is to have multiple people in the cockpit. that is -- years ago we used to have flight engineers on ...