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I think that is what really disappoints some democrats. not all, but some democrats. finding out what russia did to this country in 2016, it's not enough. what they really, really want is the president of the united states indicted. but they have pivoted from collusion months ago. remember this whole obstruction of justice, maybe he didn't collude, but the firing of jim comey is tantamount to obstruction of justice. now they are pivoting to ivanka and jared and whatever else they can pivot two. >> ed: if they just keep moving the ball, two years ago, we have evidence of collusion, they don't h...

Blueprint for oversight. it's going to give them so many different threads, they're going to do a forensic accounting of everything that's been done by the donald trump administration based on the reports, the underlying information, all of that material is going to be key for oversight going forward. >> there's another avenue for this to come out of. cohen is going to testify privately between two different committees later on this month and where he will be discussing all hands -- there will be no bars with regard to what he knows about collusion. what you're looking for from cohen publicly ...

Details of this were going to come out. he insists on calling it a witch hunt and insists on attacking and unmining it. and we get caught up about collusion, no collusion. of course, the indictment doesn't have any allegations of collusion. it also doesn't rule out collusion. what i'm saying is, put collusion aside. let's give the president the benefit of the doubt. even if he didn't collude, isn't it bad enough that he's attacking the investigation, refusing to acknowledge it, meeting with the guy who perpetrated the investigation? and also as you showed in that last clip, encouraging the att...

Didn't collude, so i didn't have any exposure to that. he probably feels relatively comfortable on that and has been reassured that on the obstruction angle, he's not likely to get charged for a variety of reasons, or at least feels like it's not so cut and dried. so when the michael cohen thing happens, now all of a sudden this is expanding way past the campaign, way past what his obstructive behavior has been during his presidency. now it's into his personal finances. so that's when the pivot really occurred, so now he's attacking the entire investigation, and i think he's essentially just s...

Shout-out to russia? >> yes, we have. it's been clear for a long time that trump tried to impede the investigation of russian collusion. the question is why. this week, we got the answer, because he was trying to clued with t collude with the russians. so was it a nice thing, if you help me win the election, to the illegal act of conspireing to defraud the united states. we look at the timeline, the answer is yes. again. in april, george pap pap dapolo gets information, and then trump saying, russians, if you have dirt on hillary, let us know. then we have this release of dirlt on hi dir dirt ...