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Leave the table a little unhappy. jimy williams, thank you, sir. appreciate it. >> thanks, thomas. we are keeping an eye on the president going to be speaking there and we see the crowd that has gathered, assembled there. we'll come back to that as soon as it starts to happen. i want to fill you in on this because the tampa socialite at the center of the david petraeus scandal is going all out to prove she did nothing wrong. jill kelley hired a top washington attorney to defend her reputation. they are now considering legal action to address what they believe are leaks about the case from ...

It's elections that you have lost big time. >> to your point, tea party favorite rand paul making some concessions or saying he's willing to on immigration. even reaching out to minorities to come into the fold of the party. let me read when he had to say. "i want to show what conservatives would or can accept if we assimilate those are here however, they got here. don't make it an easy path, but if they are willing to pay taxes, we need to normalize those who are here." that's a quote from politico. what do we a make of senator rand paul? does she have enough influence when you counter mitch ...

The good news for both of them, particularly for the president, if they get started early in 2013 maybe they can get through most of this by the time the midterms come up. >>shepard: john? >>guest: i'm not sure what we heard from the speaker, frankly. he spoke in such a way this could be the beginning of a new time of bipartisanship or it could be he is exactly the same place he was when he walked away from the table a year ago. so when you listen to what he talked about he didn't seem to take a step forward in terms of what the president wants on tass policy but he did so many figure eight's ...

Josh barro. heather mcghee, kneel bar of ski, and michelle goldberg. i did a monologue about the trajectory of paul ryan as a kind of ideological figure. to me the most interesting story that happened in the weeks that happened when we were last on the air when we were hear is when we were sitting aet this table a week ago we were saying, well, ryan's really doubling down. he's going for it ideologically, right? i'm going to be the person that gives america the tough medicine, right? we're going go after medicare. >> that's tough medicine, that's true. >> right, exactly. we're going to do this...

Media is hiding the reality of the numbers that came out friday. if you go to the website for the bureau of labor statistics, you will find that the very first piece of information in table arblga is that there were 150,000 fewer americans working in july than in june and that's why the unemployment went up. bill: that's the number of americans that dropped out of the workforce. >> no it isn't. bill: 155,000, they stopped looking nor work? >> no, that's the number of americans that were not -- a fewer number of americans that were working. whether they dropped out or were fired, or lost their ...