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Three of them they were very hard to get along with we never really got anywhere. there was table pounding, et. on the fourth one, we negotiated a very substantial treaty in five languages covering all the nations of europe's military forces. and the russians were really very easy to get along with. they wanted to work on the problem. you know there are russians and then there are russians. and if you can work with them on something, okay. give it a try. if not, then i think teddy roosevelt had it right. speak softly but carry a big stick. >> right. but in this case you have a situation where ...

These secretaries don't have exclusive control over those departments. their job is to carry out the trump agenda through those departments and one of the things donald trump understands is that there's too much bureaucracy, too much constraint on free market enterprise and an economy that's not producing enough jobs for working americans to go to work. i'll tell you right now, he's going to get a lot of table pounding and screaming and jaw jacking from the left, but neil, i'll tell you and you already know this as my dad used to say, dogs don't bark at parked cars. thank you, ken blackwell.

And should have been tried differently. this was really like trying a police officer for a prosecutor, which is totally different than how you try a regular murder case. and the defense lawyers tried this case like they were the prosecutors. they put forth all the evidence and they did all the cute stuff that prosecutors normally do. the prosecutors didn't do any of it. in fact, they were on the defensive the entire time. even in their own case they were in the defensive. >> wendy, do you really think the prosecution was unable to connect the proper dots to take the jury where they needed to b...

Wendy, how critical do you think that opportunity the prosecution's rebuttal was to leave that lingering thought of what they want the jury to remember going into the jury deliberation room? >> it's strategically always an advantage for the prosecution to have the last word. juries remember the thing they heard first and the thing they heard last, particularly well. nevertheless, if you don't have anything to say, the jury won't have anything to remember and that's the problem for the prosecution in this case. you know, they were very dramatic. there was a lot of emotion, but, you know, if you...

Should engage in a minimum of table pounding, a minimum of moral hraoeuzing and just focus relentlessly on what the attorney general knew, what other people in the justice department knew, why they seized the phone records of so many ap reporters, why they appeared to deviate from the practice -- aced practice in this -- in leak investigations like this. what was going on? that is always the question. if the attorney general dodges the question, refuses to answer questions, stonewalls questions, that will be obvious. the republicans job is to keep asking them. bill: one more point on this. peo...