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Is that there always seem to be strong support at some level for securing the border, but not for the more technical parts including, you know, guest worker programs and be so forth. so how does this differ from that? you got both parties to support, where does the rest of it come from? >> well, i think the efforts on overall immigration reform are ongoing. but the point i'm making is that you need to multitask. you need to secure the border and have a safe and secure border area, and you need immigration reform. that's what this president has set out to do, that's what he has asked the depart...

Care, they are still not getting a hope for bump. the conventional in washington, a win is a win. so far an exception to the win. >> people may see numbers and it goes over their head. how does the president speak to the people sitting around their table saying, i don't have a job, i can't pay my bills no matter what your report says or your numbers? >> reporter: they're pointing to more numbers and more reports. the stimulus package $800 billion, passes in february 2009, going on for more than a year, still being spent out. the president calling for more jobs bills, more extensions of unemplo...

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