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Of trump across the tabloid's entire website. anderson? >> randy, thanks very much. one of the journalists who reported extensively about the relationship between donald trump and david pecker long before any others, new yorker magazine's ronan farrow. given all your reporting on this, you've been leading the way on this story, were you surprised that donald trump was actually in the meeting that david pecker and michael cohen had? >> not even slightly. this was very clearly a close relationship. these were catch and kill operations that trump had direct knowledge of, according to every source...

Surprised that donald trump was actually in the meeting that david pecker and michael cohen had? >> not even slightly. this was very clearly a close relationship. these were catch and kill operations that trump had direct knowledge of, according to every source i talked to throughout this reporting. and this was a long-standing arrangement that they had by all accounts. >> and what's so fascinating, they denied catch and kill. i mean, first of all, explain what catch and kill is. but they also -- a.m.i., they always said we don't engage in that. now they have admitted, yeah, that's what they d...

Garlique.® the case of former playboy model karen mcdougal put a spotlight on a tabloid practice known as catch and kill. buying someone's story just to bury it. mcdougal said that is what happened to her with ami, the parent company of "the national enquirer," led by a longtime friend and associate of donald trump. ronan farrow was the first to obtain karen mcdougal's own notes that detailed her alleged affair with donald trump. it was in a detailed piece for "the new yorker" last month. i'll speak with ronan in a moment. first, listen to what karen mcdougal told me last night. >> why do y...

The case of former playboy model karen mcdougal put a spotlight on a tabloid practice known as catch and kill. that's what happened to her with ami, the parent company of the national enquirer, led by a longtime friend and associate of donald trump. ronan farrow was the first to get her notes that detailed her affair with donald trump. i'll speak with ronan in a moment. first, listen to what karen mcdougal told me last night. >> why do you think it was that it was after donald trump was the republican nominee that they came back? >> they wanted to squash the story. >> you're saying they wanted...