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The popular vote, he flung out another unsupported claim. in addition to winning the electoral college in a landsl e landslide, "i won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally." on his tax returns, for years he promised he would release them. in may 2014 -- >> if i decide to run for office, i'll produce my tack returns. absolutely. and i would love to do that. >> reporter: in february 2016 -- >> when are you going to release your tax returns? >> probably over the next few months. they're being worked on right now. >> reporter: and a few months later he said hop...

Hmmm. for half the calories plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8. there's one more thing from mitt romney's history as a public figure that i think is being lost in the current discussions about him not releasing his tack returns. it is this, in his 1994 senate race against ted kennedy, mitt romney demanded that ted kennedy release his tax returns. quote, with the tax filing deadline looming, republican senate candidate mitt romney yesterday challenged senator edward m. kennedy to desclois his state and federal taxes to prove he has, quote, nothing to hide. it's time the biggest taxing s...

Anything they can find to distort, to twist, and try to make negative. >> you got that? romney admits details in his tack returns will be used against him. what details? the romney campaign will not say. romney's spokesperson was asked by politico if there are any years in which romney paid zero dollars in taxes. she replied with two words, not true. well, if it's not true, why not release the tax returns? mitt romney has, if you look at his career, he's changed his mind in this campaign alone on a lot of things. he changed his mind on health care, he changed his mind on social issue. he chang...

You know, his wife, who has hundreds of millions of dollars, she never released her tax returns. somehow this wasn't an issue. the obama people keep on wanting more and more and more. more things to pick through, more things for their opposition research to try to make a mountain out of and to distort and to be dishonest about. we're going to put out two years of tax returns. we've put out one already. >> joining me now, krystal ball, co-host of msnbc's "the cycle." david cay johnston, pulitzer prize-winning reporter, tax columnist for reuters, and a psychologist, and steve schmidt, a former s...

And so i think if you take it all together and up see the d.a. is trying to be very clear with the trump organization which now stands indicted and with mr. weisselberg that they're not playing around, that this is their first move and there are references in here to things that could, we can't say will, but could ensnare others. a reference to an unindicted co-conspirator nbc reporting says is not donald trump but is somebody, a reference to donald trump's ledger. a reference to federal tax evasion, which obviously poses questions for the garland justice department about concurrently or later...