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Attraction. a trailer for the mueller report, in which in the end, he is going to layout a circumstantial case of political sin rather than federal crime. >> took the words right out of my mouth. >> [laughing]. >> it's not just that the rules say you can't indict a sitting president. they won't find any crimes. let's take collusion. the president said there is no collusion. even if there were evidence of collusion, even if this was a deal made between the president and putin, help me get elected president. i don't favor sanctions. that would be a terrible political sin. but i can search up and...

Outside legal team rudy giuliani. if we hear something from sarah sanders i think they would say there is no evidence of collusion here that is demonstrated. michael cohen maybe talked about contacts with russians but no evidence of collusion. that's been their story all along and a story they are sticking to. what might be more interesting to see than the michael cohen sentencing memorandum and attacked addendum is what comes out in the manafort case and if that's as heavily redacted aside the michael cohen one was. that might have more information about collusion and the trump campaign and r...

Seen anything along those lines. >> i feel like the news just threw up on me. >> [laughing]. >> i am trying. >> what you just said is the key thing. this was supposed to be about something else which was this mythical beast which was collusion. instead we have these complications and these documents and these details and we don't know what is legal or illegal. for the media this will feel like christmas. >> yeah. campaign finance violations there are legitimate concerns. there are laws, obviously. if you are talking about substantial evident of collusion with russia. so far i am not seeing any...

That he has provided is the campaign contribution issue. it's a very, very weak case because the president is entitled to pay off women in order to help his family, help his brand. even if it was to help the campaign, remember the timing, he would not have had to file anything until after the election. i think many courts would say no harm, no dowel. -- foul. even if he filed it after the election, it would not have impacted the election. the campaign contribution case is weak. the evident of him wanting to build a tower in moscow. that's not a crime. it's not collusion. if the president offer...

And we are waiting for manafort. put that in context for the kind of week the president is looking at on the special counsel? >> i don't think we know yet. i think the flynn filing, if you listen to people who really covered this closely like michael and others who say people are reading too much into it. you don't know what is behind the redactions. it's possible they could be involved in other crimes dealing with other people and other lobbyists. again, we don't know on that front. as far as these fileings, the most damning thing so far is the payments.ings, the most damning thing so far is ...