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People with preexisting conditions, and all these things that people have gained. so there is no way this is going to be repealed. but he wants his people to believe that he is out there fighting for something that he's created in his own mind. it is not what the american people want. >> you know, joan, ted cruz wasn't the only one attacking the health care law. you had the big conservative conference over the weekend. >> oh, yeah. >> look at this. >> we need to repeal every single word of obamacare. >> the president also is transformed our health care system into a plus-sized bureaucracy. >> ...

Of that is due to the health care law. but we're moving in the right direction. and it's past time for senator cruz and speaker boehner to accept that reality. joining me now are congressman jim mcdermott and joan walsh. thank you both for being here tonight. >> it's good to be here. >> thanks, rev. >> congressman, you can't make it up. repealing obama care while the president is in office, i mean, what's going on here? >> well, he is talking to his base, al there is just no question. either that or he is truly, as you say, delusional. it makes no sense at all. you got to remember, this guy th...

Uninsured people. it's doing all these positive things, and that's why they're desperate to stop it. but they can't. >> congressman, if you look at the politics of it, the american people don't want to repeal the law. i mean, the most recent nbc poll found 54% of americans want to fix the health care law. 17% want to keep it as is. and 28% want to repeal it. so 70% of americans want to fix the law or keep it as it is. i mean, what does that say to you? >> well, it says to me that the next candidate for president is not going to be ted cruz on the republican side. and certainly, the winner isn'...

Young people have with politicians who are -- >> but, let's get back to the basic argument here. regailing about profit, as if these movie studios were not profitable, he would not have this money and be in a position to speak. i worry more about people -- i don't know hutch about him. he pops up and i thought he was one of the apostles. i had no idea. my point is, a lot of young people look up to him and take at face value anything he says is credible, and that sends a bad signal to young people. what say you? >> it could. i don't necessarily think that people actually look up to russell bran...

To whether or not jay carney would take obamacare. watch. >> you're talking about enrollment. will jay carney enroll in this? will white house staff enroll in obamacare? >> everybody -- you -- >> let's start with you. >> if i -- >> you going to enroll? >> if i in a future life don't have -- >> well, premiums are so great. >> ed, does everybody here agree that we can ask questions and answer them, but if you want to -- you're not even letting me answer the question, ed. >> go ahead and answer. >> i'm not quite sure what you're -- >> would you enroll. >> absolutely. >> it's a simple question. >>...