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Doing. in an article for the "atlantic," david graham writes, though plenty of observers are disgusted by the president's validation of racist protester, no one should be surprised or take it as a spontaneous riff. it was one of the most cogent cases he has made as politician. david graham joining me right now. what do you mean by that? >> we often see trump improvising, making it up on the fly, but i think what we saw on tuesday was a very clear argument and one that fits in with things he's been saying all along, and it's an interesting thing he's trying to d. on the one hand he's saying, ye...

But 12 and 13-year-olds, juan, and just this barrage of this stuff, day in and day out, what do you say? >> it's corrupt. i mean, this is a culture of failure. it is dogging black america. i think you are right to call it out. but you know what happens is the critics as you say come out and they say oh, if you say that you are not really black. you are not authentic or you are acting white. or, you know, you are getting in the way of people who are making crazy bank. that the rappers. but the fact is the rappers are the sell-outs, bill. the rappers, you know, you think about the snoop dogg, ...

Sense of what took place at the capitol. >> well, it is very rare what happened today. it has not happened since 1959 and ironically, the first year that senator byrd who served for 51 years was in the senate. he made the request to lie in repose on the senate floor, the place that he loved and lived for and really wrote the history of, and literally wrote the history of. he did take pride, suzanne, so much on the fact that he is a vestige of a time and era gone by and the man who held up the traditions and the importance of the senate and the legislative branch. he liked the way that the cons...

But 12 and 13-year-olds, juan, and just this barrage of this stuff, day in and day out, what do you say? >> it's corrupt. i mean, this is a culture of failure. it is dogging black america. i think you are right to call it out. but you know what happens is the critics as you say come out and they say oh, if you say that you are not really black. you are not authentic or you are acting white. or, you know, you are getting in the way of people who are making crazy bank. that the rappers. but the fact is the rappers are the sell-outs, bill. the rappers, you know, you think about the snoop dogg, th...