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Fraudster michael cohen directly asked me for a pardon. i said no. so this is actually not just a matter of semantics or wanting to get to the bottom of it just for the sake of it. who brought up the pardon first is an important question because it could mean obstruction of justice if the answer is the president of the united states. shimon is out in washington. what are they looking for? what do they want? >> so the only thing really you can think of here is whether or not -- really the best way to explain it is whether or not the president, whether the people close to the president were esse...

Whoever it may have been, is that grounds for impeachment? >> yes, no question. right now we're at the early stages. we've only been in the majority -- this is our third month. we've had one public hearing, and that was with mr. cohen himself. as mr. nadler reported, they put out one net with a wide range of activity by mr. trump and his organization, we're in the fact-finding phase and shouldn't be ahead of ourselves but neither should we downplay the gravity of it. >> i know you're always questioning jared kushner's security clearance. there are letters that show that

>> i was asked a larger question about this, and my answer doesn't change. why do you do stories on all three of them? >> they will be included in the stories tomorrow, i'm sure. >> why? >> you do not see connections between the assertion that shirley sherrod was told glenn beck was going to have her on the tv that night. >> you want to answer my question about why you do those stories, too. >> i'm not sure what that question is. >> check on that and get back to me. >> is anyone in the white house freezing the agriculture department from taking question.