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Porter, as well as john kelly, for quite some time. >> how can this go on and why there is a problem with the security clearances of this white house? this does hurt john kelly. he digs in and he defends his staff, kelly does. and this shouldn't have happened. and i think we were talking on the break, is the clock ticking for john kelly at this point? >> do you think it is? >> this president likes to scapegoat his staff. in is an excuse he can use. >> one of the biggest problems that john kelly has and one of the things that all of us recognize is that the president treats this like a p.r. cri...

Reporting. the president is not dismayed at the scandal. the president is not dismayed that his staff secretary is accused of abuse and the white house looked away. the president is dismayed at what it makes him look like. the president is dismayed on how it was handled. that right there underscores the complete, not just crisis of competency, which is what we've seen and how the whole security clearance issue was handled. and frankly, how the talking points issue was handled. i'm sorry, to have hope hicks who is romantically involved with this guy who was accused of sexually assaulting his ex...

In three week. this is rand paul, a republican, who engineered it. did he have a good enough reason to do it, in your opinion? >> i don't believe he did. the bill was negotiated in a bipartisan way. and the bill was supported by many democrats and many republicans. the issue that stands in the way of passing this bill is simple. speaker ryan has refused to give a guarantee of a firm process to democrats in the house. they see that they're very concerned about daca. and they're asking, why can't we get something similar in the house. the easiest thing for a speaker to do is to schedule a vote. ...

That will delay things for an hour and a half to two hours in the senate. things get kicked out to the house. that is far from a sure thing at this point. house democrats making clear, that immigration is their issue. they want daca addressed. two minutes ago, leader nancy pelosi, reiterating, they want a firm commitment about a specific daca process. if they don't get it, they might not give him the votes. we're closer to one step being passed. >> you have a monitor there. you can see air. are they praying? are they gaveling in? what's going on? >> they're gaveling in. they went into recess a...