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All the americans are saying, - and borisjohnson and the others, all they're saying is, - if he wanted to do it now, he could do it now. interesting to get those different views, and just to conclude this section of the programme, henry, back to you. someone i spoke to recently about ukraine, an expert on the country, was talking about the jaw war rather than the war war — the talking — so is that what you think putin is trying to do, extract more concessions? we know that putin is a very calculated leader, and he knows full well that the minute there is an invasion, everything resets, rig...

I don't think we are as close to war as the americans - are pointing out. all the americans are saying, and boris johnson and - the others, all they're saying is, if he wanted to do it now, he could do it now. interesting to get those different views, and just to conclude this section of the programme, henry, back to you. someone i spoke to recently about ukraine, an expert on the country, was talking about the jaw war rather than the war war — the talking — so is that what you think putin is trying to do, ramp up pressure, extract more concessions? we know that putin is a very calculated ...