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Continue and will only grow more severe in terms of sanctions, actions, and other actions until they do get on a pathway to achieve that objective that the entire world hopes to achieve. >> reporter: it sounds like this good cop/bad cop, if you will. hold out the prospects of talk but if talks don't work, military action might be the formula you and and the president will continue? >> i'll let you characterize it that way pep. i'm not necessarily going to show all of our cards. >> reporter: let's go to iran. you said you want to support, quote, elements in the country that will lead to a peace...

This country. >> why? >> it's dangerous because our system of government is one that assumes that one branch will check the power of another and the decisions that the president can make are consequential. his behavior is consequential. and to have congress simply sit back saying that's trump being trump. no, it's not. it's the president of the united states challenging can interests of the american people and destabilizing the interests on the globe. it's not trump being trump. he's the president. he ought to behave like the president. i'm not sure he is capable of it. >> we are learning law ...

Participation in those sanctions and a number of countries going well beyond the security council resolutions and imposing utility lateral actions on their own, both economic as well diplomatic, i think it is a recognition that the president has demonstrated to the world how high the stakes are. that's why we must achieve a diplomatic outcome. but the north koreans have to understand that and they have to understand that the penalties to them will continue and will only grow more severe in terms of sanctions, actions and other actions until they do get on a pathway to achieve that objective th...

I think the recognition the president has demonstrated to the world how high the stakes are. that's why we must achieve a diplomatic out come. the north koreans have to understand the penalties to them will continue and we will only throw more severe in terms of sanctions and other actions until they do get on the pathway to cop, bad cop, if you will. hold out the pros spebts of talks, but if talks don't work, military action, that might be the formula that you and the president will continue. >> i'm going to let tu characterize it that way. i'm not going to necessarily show all of our cards. ...

South korea. do you think the tough rhetoric has worked here? >> i think the rhetoric that north korea understands is, it's our objective and the president's been very clear to achieve a denuclearization through diplomatic efforts. those diplomatic efforts are backed by a strong military option, if necessary. that is not the first choice. and the president's been clear that's not his first choice. but it is important that north koreans, as well as other regional players, understand how high the stakes are. in an effort to ensure our diplomatic efforts are fully supported. and i think to date t...