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Kidnap victim and it was a horrendous thing, but i also think she had a choice. >> it sounds so impossible now to believe that someone of great privilege could join in this radical terrorist-like group. but i think she did it to survive. >> at some point i think in that year, if not sooner, patty hearst put on tania and liked it better than anything she had before. >> i truly believe that she was, to some extent, indoctrinated into those beliefs and now regrets it, denies it by saying she was truly a victim the whole time because once you take on those beliefs, those radical beliefs, you have ...

Kidnap victim and it was a horrendous thing, but i also think she had a choice. >> it sounds so impossible now to believe that someone of great privilege could join in this radical terrorist-like group. but i think she did it to survive. >> at some point i think in that year, if not sooner, patty hearst put on tania and liked it better than anything she had before. >> i truly believe that she was, to some extent, indoctrinated into those beliefs and now regrets it, denies it by saying she was truly a victim the whole time because once you take on those beliefs, those radical beliefs, you have ...

We drove one block and turned right and she stopped and she said, can my friends come along? all i noticed was william harris getting out of the car because as he got out there was something bulging out of his jacket. opened up his coat and sure enough it was a machine gun. said they were with the sla and needed to borrow my van. patty got in the car behind william harris. do you know who this is? i shock my head no. i didn't recognize her. he said this is tania and he kind of smiled. >> as soon as he learn shed was patricia hearst, he couldn't believe this happened to him. >> i said, wow, my ...

In his pocket, right? so we et get our stuff from the pontiac and we move that into this car. we left. we made it out of there, we beat the cops out of there, and we're gone. >> the shoot-out at mel's is for me the single most important piece of evidence that patty hearst had joined the sla. patty hearst is is no longer a captive, but she's a participant in the terrorism of the sla. >> i know a lot of people made a big thing of the fact that she sprayed mel's sporting goods with bullets when she could have jumped in the car and gotten away. i don't think that's as definitive as people do. it's...

Pontiac and e we move that into this car. we left, we made it out of there and beat the cops out of there and we're gone. >> the shootout is, for me, the single most important piece of evidence that patty hearst had joined the sla. pat ty hearst is is no longer a captive, but she's a participant in the terrorism of the sla. >> i know a lot of people made a big thing of the fact that she sprayed the sporting goods with bullets when she could have jumped in the car and gotten away. i don't think that's as definitive as people do. it's not that simple. but she had changed. on some level, she thou...