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Is get ahead of the curve and anticipate the witnesses and the tapes. of course, what happened is nixon clearly knew about the secret taping system. he was listening to some of them. but at this point his lawyers and staff were not told about the secret taping system and had not been publicly disclosed. so the surprise element was there for the staff, and of course what you find in the nixon case. and this is definitely a that the people who were closest to nixon were most appalled by the lying and the deceit. i found that and i think we find almost daily if not weekly in the trump case, the p...

Nixon white house is they would go okay, what happened here, and he wouldn't tell them. he would just make them come into him with their draft of what they thought they could say happened. it seems like the trump white house is a similar kind of operation. how does someone go into donald trump and say for our counter report to mueller we need to know exactly what happened? it seems like you'd run into the same struggle with donald trump as they did with richard nixon. >> well, and of course trump would tweet it out. nixon was quite silent, and what they were trying at this point in the waterga...

And staff were not told about the secret taping system and had not been publicly disclosed. so the surprise element was there for the staff, and of course what you find in the nixon case. and this is definitely a similarity. tat the people who were closest to nixon were most appalled by the lying and the deceit. i found that and i think we find almost daily if not weekly in the trump case, the people there are the ones with the most profound anxiety about what's going on. and you see in the temper -- the appointment of chief of staff part-time, here's one of the great jobs in washington. you k...

But at this point his lawyers and staff were not told about the secret taping system and had not been publicly disclosed. so the surprise element was there for the staff, and of course what you find in the nixon case. and this is definitely a similarity. tat the people who were closest to nixon were most appalled by the lying and the deceit. i found that and i think we find almost daily if not weekly in the trump case, the people there are the ones with the most profound anxiety about what's going on. and you see in the temper -- the appointment of chief of staff part-time, here's one of the g...

Come up with in the white house and everybody was work on it, a gang of people were working on it, one of the struggles in the nixon white house is they would go okay, what happened here, and he wouldn't tell them. he would just make them come into him with their draft of what they thought they could say happened. it seems like the trump white house is a similar kind of operation. how does someone go into donald trump and say for our counter report to mueller we need to know exactly what happened? it seems like you'd run into the same struggle with donald trump as they did with richard nixon. ...