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A tariff war and/or having a trade war. what he's trying to do is really talk about trying to juice up their base. we're just going to let mr. mueller do the work he has to do, the work that the president and mr. giuliani want to stop immediately. let mueller do his investigation. if something comes up, it comes up. if nothing comes of it, nothing comes of it. we're going to take back the majority, and we're going to do the work of the people because we're for the people and what the people need. >> one of the president's new favorite targets is democratic congresswoman maxine waters. he calls...

Looking agent $39 billion without the new excalation to china. how do you weigh that? we've been out there talking to farmers. our reporters have been out there and many are willing to stand by the president for a little while. they feel there's a lot of unfairness in trade and they are feel the press's talking tough on their behalf but a lot live on razor thin margins. >> they do. again, one of the reasons we didn't just go to that because most countries, always respond against agriculture first. and look, i think any time we invite a tariff war, it ultimately is going to hurt us. but, your a...

But we could have this about entitlement reform and education reform, military reform, this cuts across. what charles said about caterpillar can withstand a little of the hurting, coca-cola said they have to raise prices. there's individuals, harley-davidson, they're struggling with the economic choices that president has made. nobody can dispute the 4.1% gdp growth. i'm not sure the tariff war is the way to go here. >> why not? charles, if they're charges a tariff or a tax on our stuff and we're not doing it on their stuff, it's not fair. >> i've been saying it the whole time. i came up as a ...

Welcome back to "hardball." roughly 100 days out from the midterm election in november. and the president acting nervous. he has reversed himself on a number of issues. delayed meeting with vladimir putin until 2019. and he promised to bail out farmers hurt by tariff war. today trump traveled to two midwestern states where he tried to convince voters that his tough talk on tariffs will work out. it is a tough sell. in iowa tumbled. and just yesterday a new nbc poll shows the president under water well below 50 in three

Domestic companies, dealers and autopart makers, asking the president not to move forward with the penalties. a bipartisan group of nearly 150 lawmakers urging the commerce secretary to back away from the tariffs. we're back with bill, mary, and jason. so bill, there's a school of thought that says -- has said for sometime, the president's trade threats are really just a negotiating ploy, that he will back away at the end and it won't go ahead. i'm increasingly of the belief that he really wants this kind of a tariff war, and he really wants to stick it to german automobiles. what do you think...