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Conversation that needs to take place. again, chuck, this is why it's so important to get our senior leaders together because these conversations have happened at the local level. i'm on the ground, i'm on the front lines in moscow. they happened at our level but they haven't happened at the senior most levels in the detail that we're likely to get tomorrow. that's why this gathering is important for one reasons. >> two things. will the president ask putin to extradite the 12 military officers and have you formally requested that the russian government do this? we don't have an extradition tre...

Al assad. and don't meddle in the democracies like the united states and our allies. absolutely, that should be the conditions. everyone is talking about we need a better relationship. putin wants a better relationship. my view is it's up to the russians. because they need to take actions to get that better. >> you're basically saying president trump better not give in to any of putin's asks. putin may ask to get american troops out of syria, putin may ask to lessen the sanctions to crimea and lessen the sanctions and give back the compounds that we took away. so if the president gives in on a...

You have signed on to the letter with a bunch of other democratic senators calling for the president to either cancel the summit or if he doesn't basically essentially make it a one issue summit. ambassador huntsman number one, doesn't want to call it a summit, but a meeting. have you been reassured from mr. huntsman about what the president will do with putin? >> well, chuck i would feel better if ambassador huntsman who i have a lot of confidence in was actually sitting in on the meeting. i'm very concerned about a one-on-one meeting between vladimir putin and donald trump. we know that trum...

That's serious. >> you realize, senator, everything you're discussing, you guys have forced the administration on this. he himself though rhetorically seems -- does that -- when he rhetorically downplays this concrete action that you're talking about doesn't it undermine the action? >> look, the javelin system wasn't forced on the president at all. president obama didn't want to do that. president trump, secretary mattis did that. putin understands power. let me mention one other area. energy. chuck, we have this great opportunity unleashing american energy. i was in a meeting with senator mcc...

Resigned to trump being outplayed by putin. a view perhaps best summed up by a former state department official. i'm afraid he told me that our guy here is like an amateur boxer going up against muhammad ali. amy? >> we heard from the ambassador that it's just a meeting. so it's not a summit. >> hang on. we went from summit to meeting at some point he went down to detailed conversation. >> so already we know where this is. let's face it. putin has already won. it's not simply that the president's going over into his part of the world and having this sitdown and one-on-one. but the fact is that...