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Then. >> correct. >> but now they won't support any loopholes whatsoever nor will they identify them. >> the bigger debate is if you do close the loopholes, what would it go for in republicans say it shouldn't be for deficit reduction, it should be to lower tax codes. it's a non-starter for democrats. great to have you on with us. >> thank you. >> just ahead, the republican plan to steal electoral votes is going forward in one state. that's pennsylvania. we'll have the details next. stay with us. think how perfect they'll be for everyday stuff. yeah. scan me. stride on, pale-legged, short-shor...

Loop holes. they were supporting romney back then. >> correct. >> but now they won't support any loopholes whatsoever nor will they identify them. >> the bigger debate is if you do close the loopholes, what would it go for in republicans say it shouldn't be for deficit reduction, it should be to lower tax codes. it's a non-starter for democrats. >> great to have you on with us. >> thank you. just ahead, the republican plan to steal electoral votes is going forward in one state. that's pennsylvania. we'll have the details next. stay with us.

Government that we can eliminate. but, we can't simply cut our way to prosperity. cutting spending has to go hand in hand with further reforms towards tax codes that wealthyest corporations and individuals can take advantage of loopholes and deductions that aren't available to most americans. and we can't keep cutting egg things like basic research, new technology and still expect to succeed in the 21 century economy. so we're going have to continue to move forward in deficit reduction, but we have to do knit a balanced way, making sure we're growing, as we get a handle on spending. now, one l...

They don't think their party has fought as hard as they can. if you watch these games closely, it's easy to get depressed. they are petty and sorrowful and vengeful. but behind all that, if you filter it out, if you look at the offers on the table and the counteroffers and in particular if you look at the red lines that are being proposed by john boehner and president obama, if you look at these very closely, a deal is beginning to take shape. watch this. you remember during the presidential campaign what president obama used to say over and over again about tax rates? about what his plan was ...

If you watch these games closely, it's easy to get depressed. they are petty and sorrowful and vengeful. but behind all that, if you filter it out, if you look at the offers on the table and the counteroffers and in particular if you look at the red lines that are being proposed by john boehner and president obama, if you look at these very closely, a deal is beginning to take shape. watch this. you remember during the presidential campaign what president obama used to say over and over again about tax rates? about what his plan was for tax rates? president obama was crystal clear about what e...