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Writes from a center left perspective, are you happy that that would be the turf the republicans are staking, or at least this one leading republican candidate is staking for the big argument of the election? >> oh, yeah. this is a tough environment for obama or any democrat to win in in event. and the republicans are just, from their perspective, fouling things up fairly well. you have someone like romney talking about this invisible boot and talking about the need to get rid of regulations and that sort of thing. just emphasizing the fact that he is essentially for the 1%. to use the occupy ...

Will have to forgive me for a minute because i'm. >> going to talk out of both sides of my mouth on this issue. when you put money in people's pockets it is a good thing. generally i'm in favor of any kind of tax decrease. people are bound to spend the money more eye fibbently than we do in washington. on the other hand, that money is being borrowed and there will come a time when the bill has to be paid and the rest of us have to figure out how to pay the bill. notice barney frank left this week and people said maybe he is leaving because it is tough down there now. he is one tough guy, he is...

He has an optional 20% flat tax. he keeps the standard deductions. is he making it two complicated to appeal to those who like 9-9-9? >> it is more complicated than herman cain's 9-9-9 for that reason. his attack is that herman cain has a new national sales tax. what rick perry is doing is proposing an enormous tax cut for people at the top. he is also ensuring that nobody gets a tax increase. there are many middle income that would get a tax decrease. nobody has their taxes go up. the deficit implications are pretty vast, although he says he is going to generate economic growth. >> what about...

>> we are inside the sands convention center in las vegas. seven gop contenders wrapping up their debate moments ago, the tone this time, contention, personal at times, especially between herman cain and other candidates on tax, you might have seen, talking about already. there was also the explosive encounter between a very aggressive rick perry and counter punching rick perry over illegal immigration. our panel has plenty to talk b before bring them back in i want to bring in key moments about the debate, began with an all-out assault on herman cain's 9-99-9 plan. we will talk to h...

illegal immigration. our panel has plenty to talk b before bring them back in i want to bring in key moments about the debate, began with an all-out assault on herman cain's 9-99-9 plan. we will talk to him in a moment let's take a look. >> herman, i love you, brother, but you don't need to have a big analysis to figure this thing out. go to new hampshire where they don't have a sales tax and you're fixing to give them one. they're not interested in 9-9-9. >> herman, are you saying the state sales tax will go away? >> you're mixing apples and oranges? you will pay the state sales tax...