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>> and you feel like you followed the irs? >> absolutely. we have a tax lawyer. that's a reason why campaigns are so expensive. we have a cpa who does our filing, we have tax lawyers that are on call to make sure that we follow the letter of law. >> reporter: tax issues by other ways and means members run the gamut. paul ryan had to pay a fine for understating his income to the mundane indiana republican todd young paid $1500 after a mortgage escrow mix-up to the outrageous irs problems causing $2.5 million for buchanan. and perhaps the largest was charlie rangel. he failed to pay taxes on his...

Bitcoin for a week, i had like 0.6 left and i forgot to cash it out so i left it in coin base. and it's still there. i think it went up and might be worth quite a lot if i never sold it. but i think when i do sell it, there might be tax issues. >> krystal helped me understand. i feel like bit koip oig is better than the other cycle post. but -- >> one man was able to create a currency and make profit out of that. i want to get your take on senator manchin on banning this. what is your reaction to that? does it have real merit or is he making a mount continue out ofa mole hill? >> the fed doesn...

>> as we just saw, dividing up equity is complicated. there are legal issues, taxish you autos, there are emotional issues. so we brought in an sbert to help sort it all out. brad schwartz is founding partner of strategic law partners. he is also an adviser to the company that i founded. brad, it's great to talk to you. >> good morning, j.j. >> okay. so i want to just concentrate on founders' equity, the first people. in a different segment we'll talk about giving equity to your employees. how do you decide? these guys did it 50/50 when they started. how do you decide how much equity each foun...

>> as we just saw dividing up equity is complicated. there are legal issues, there are tax issues, there are emotional issues. so we've brought in an expert to help sort it out. brad shart is founding partner of strategic law partners. it's great to talk to you. >> good morning, j.j. >> okay, so i want to just concentrate on founders equity. the first people, in a different segment we'll talk about giving equity to your employees. how do you decide, these guys did it 50/50 when they started. how do you decide how much equity each founder should get? >> you know, there's not a -- a correct way ...

My younger brother does nothing but paperwork. we've got one person in a small business like ours, a bakery, does nothing but paperwork, taking care of it. if an employee leaves, you're taking care of 11, 12 pages of paperwork for them going away, them leaving. just the constant barrage from government from tax issues. now you don't report your inventory once a year, now you have to report it four times a year. who has time to do that in small business? it's all this constant stuff that separates big business from small business. when you throw that onto small pusiness that's going directly ag...