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There are some other candidates he will have to face, what he calls a corridor of power. he also called d.c. a roach motel. does he have the advantage because he is not part of the roach motel like "hotel california," like you can never leave? >> i think he was stressing his track record and ability to take on clintons and democrats there in arkansas. that's pretty good argument for me to hear. listen i like the fact that he is bringing what is a tax problem that this country faces to the foreground. kennedy, you were sitting next to me while listening to that when he mentioned he was advocate...

A second, we've had the va, which you brought up. we've had the income tax, the tax problem over at the irs. there have been a number of things and the president just sort of, the administration looked like it wasn't on top of it. having said that, on picks are a lot in politics. do you think it is a mistake for the president not to have gone to the border this week when he was in texas because it may make him look uninvolved? fair or not? >> i wish he would have come to the border. i wish he would have visited mccallan texas, ground zero for the refugees fleeing central america. i wish he cam...

And role. my constituents see the president who used to be their state u.s. senator saying if you don't like what i'm doing, sue me, that's not the type of pejorative -- >> i mean that's a problem -- >> the reason that we're suing him is because he's out of bound. he's not following the rule of law. they're facing whiplash on their health care policy because they don't know what because the rules keep checking. >> let me ask this for a second. when you look at the border question, for instance, and there is a lot of question about why can't you pass an immigration bill, but i think the questio...

When they meet you online or through a search. a problem had a tax problem 20 years ago and they were resolved. he is saying when someone searches my name is that the first thing they see about me? >> what about someone accused of something and it wasn't true and it becomes the first thing that comes up? you're talking about what comes up on the page when you google, like, i'm googling myself. >> everyone does. >> it has -- it hasn't -- it's got things on that i wouldn't consider my latest or greatest adventures in life. and twitter legs comes up in the search. >> the prop also is another case...

>> that is almost half a billion we spend each year just on interest payments. boy, that can go a long way to solving a lot of problems we have. it's just wasteful. >> chuck, is it a spending problem or are we having a tax problem, a revenue problem? >> i think still it's the combination of both. i think the problem overall is people don't understand billions and trillions. i do politics for a living. i give people electives for a living. i think the biggest thing, if you are where i am right now rnlth ask them what a trillion dollars is, they will wonder if that's how much they should be putt...