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Highlight something that i think -- you alluded to. but to point out something that's interesting that you had unanimity on this issue of was there fraud, widespread fraud in the election. and it's interesting that that wasn't unanimous. but the issue of whether people, anybody had committed perjury was by majority. and that tells me that there will be critical thinkers. this wasn't a -- block of people who are saying all the same thing. so, it was like one small piece of tea leaf reading. >> in the summer we got. they said you'll find in the four report who voted yes and no uncertain thanks. ...

This wasn't a -- block of people who are saying all the same thing. so, it was like one small piece of tea leaf reading. >> in the summer we got. they said you'll find in the four report who voted yes and no uncertain thanks. >> which is fascinating. as a former trial lawyer, the idea that a jury is gonna give you their breakdown in a case, it just doesn't happen. we don't get a breakdown. and this is what the grand jury thinks. it's just who thought what. usually you just get, there is an indictment, or there's not an indictment, you don't get that it's 14 people, seven people, and these peop...

Saying, in hindsight, i probably got a bit carried away and overinvested relative to the uncertainty we saw shaping up in the market. and then also this week, we have louis theroux announcing a new podcast with spotify. so it's all going on and you could well be asking what is going on? let's try and find out. nick hilton's a podcast industry analyst. he runs the production company podot. nick, great to have you with us on the media show. help me out here. i'm trying to piece together what what's coming out of spotify. it's requiring a bit of tea leaf reading. we're not exactly sure. and obvio...

Podcasts, it's advertising. then we have the head of spotify, daniel ek, saying, in hindsight, i probably got a bit carried away and overinvested relative to the uncertainty we saw shaping up in the market. and then also this week, we have louis theroux announcing a new podcast with spotify. so it's all going on and you could well be asking, what is going on? let's try and find out. nick hilton's a podcast industry analyst. he runs the production company poddo. nick, great to have you with us on the media show. help me out here. i'm trying to piece together what what's coming out of spotify. i...

The person in charge of its podcast strategy left recently. bloomberg has been speaking to insiders and saying spotify�*s future isn't exclusive podcasts, it's advertising. then we have the head of spotify, daniel ek, saying, in hindsight, daniel ek, saying, in hindsight, i probably got a bit carried away and overinvested relative to the uncertainty we saw shaping up in the market. and then also this week, we have louis theroux announcing a new podcast with spotify. so it's all going on and you could well be asking, what is going on? let's try and find out. nick hilton's a podcast industry a...