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Like john purdue who wrote this pretty kooky book, i read it, the nexus between jihadis and latin american radicals. this guy is basically there in treasury we think as the white house's, like, eyes and ears. >> right. we're not sure what many of these people are doing. some of them seem to be like 23-year-old trump campaign staffers who ran the campaign in kentucky. some are real washington people. >> lobbyists. >> we found around 36, at least 36 registered -- former registered lobbyists. this is not a swamp-draining group of people. >> 36 lobbyists working in the agencies, including a guy fr...

So this was kind of the moving target. so, yes, it took a lot of time on the policy side, on the market side, and there was a team in place with other people, outside experts coming in, kicking the tires, regular reports, regular dashboards on the tech side, but clearly the estimate that it was ready to go october 1st was just flat out wrong. >> did the white house oversell it? >> i don't think they did. i think what we said from the outset was, you know, this was fixing a very broken market where individuals really were on their own. if you were healthy and wealthy, you could get coverage. if...

So this was kind of the moving target. so, yes, it took a lot of time on the policy side, on the market side, and there was a team in place with other people, outside experts coming in, kicking the tires, regular reports, regular dashboards on the tech side, but clearly the estimate that it was ready to go october 1st was just flat out wrong. >> did the white house oversell it? >> i don't think they did. i think what we said from the outset was, you know, this was fixing a very broken market where individuals really were on their own. if you were healthy and wealthy, you could get coverage. if...

The airline responded in just a couple of minutes. sarah, we take these threats very seriously. your ip address and details will be forwarded to security and the fbi. and that's when she had the mother of all meltdowns, she wrote back, i'm so sorry, i'm scared now. i was joking and it was my friend, not me. take her ip address, not mine. it's unclear if american airlines actually forwarded the tweet to the feds. the company tweet was quickly deleted. kathleen sebelius now out of a job as health and human services secretary, and she's now finally admitting the obamacare rollout was flawed. on...

Certainly isn't a full success, but it is a success, and cabinet members welcomed to quit after the first term, she was in the midst of this huge project. this turned out to be good timing for her, she gets out of at least something to claim as a victory. martha: let's take a listen to another piece of that interview. i want to get your thoughts on this. >> there was a team in place with other people coming in kicking the tires, reports on the tech side, but clearly the estimate that i was ready to go october 1 was flat out wrong. martha: this is one of the questions we still don't know. what ...