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But a lot of those systems have their downfalls, have their costs, have their consequences. so, the arc of technology is and has never been linear. it has always had, you know, some cycle to it. i would argue that the recent cycle probably peaked in 1969. that was when man landed on the moon, and it was also the year that we had woodstock. and so, right now, i think from a societal perspective, we're generally techno—pessimists. and we were really techno—optimists leading up to the moon landing and during the industrial revolution. and now, we're seeing the consequences in the last couple ...

Have their downfalls, have their costs, have their consequences. so, the arc of technology is and has never been linear. it has always had, you know, some cycle to it. i would argue that the recent cycle probably peaked in 1969. that was when man landed on the moon, and it was also the year that we had woodstock. and so, right now, i think from a societal perspective, we're generally techno—pessimists. and we were really techno—optimists leading up to the moon landing and during the industrial revolution. and now, we're seeing the consequences in the last couple of days that are really ove...

Carcinogenic, and sit in the environment. now, what was the cost, and what was the benefit? that is a very hard thing to quantify, but the same is true in our industrialisation of food systems. we have an abundance of calories, we have, you know, enough calorie production in the next decade, theoretically, to meet the needs of nine billion humans. but a lot of those systems have their downfalls, have their costs, have their consequences. so, the arc of technology is and has never been linear. it has always had, you know, some cycle to it. i would argue that the recent cycle probably peaked in ...