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To do just that. it requires leadership. it's not filing an amendment and calling it success. developing a strategy and funding it and making sure we have a military that is second to none and doing the job and making sure that we destroy isis there. that's how you keep america safe. >> ms. fiorina, as you pointed out, you were a ceo in silicon valley on 9/11. companies there say they won't help the fbi crack encrypted from isis. should they be forced to? >> listening to this conversation, let me just say, we have a lot of argument about laws, but none of it solves the problem. let's examine w...

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By. >> when you're grown up, your parents are like, hey, listen up, kids, study hard, go to college, get a real job. so you're not playing with remote controlled toys. i mean, this is not journalism training. this is paparazzi training. and the university of missouri, one of the top journalism schools in the country, should be teaching that you shouldn't have to use drones to get a story if you're actually a good journalist. >> you're agreeing, right? >> can you imagine -- can you imagine on your resume putting, i can fly this really good? >> as a journalist, i mean, look, journalism is under ...