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Approximate we let that happen. we never want americans to be in a fair fight. we want them to be in every advantage. what we do over the next few years will determine if that's the case or not. >> important story in the l.a. times. china took their gloves off in the theft of the u.s. technology secrets. we'll get into that with devin. do you think china's behavior is go can to change any time soon? >> i have no reason to believe that. where the president talked about our trade relationship with china generally also that discussion goes into what happened with the military where all of our inv...

Our defense secrets and commercial technology secrets. we know that they are pushing cyber. not just hacking. all of these things are coming to fruition and the question is, united states, we are serious about this. are you, los angeles, taipei? arthel: wow! i have to leave it there. captain nash, thank you. i'm sure we will talk about this again and again. thank you, sir. >> you bet, arthel. eric: and there is nafta. remember that? when negotiations have started to the u.s. getting very close to a deal we are told with at least one of the neighbors. what it could mean, coming up. +1 of the na...

Force to you transfer your technology. they do steal our technology secrets. by going after this company. this would have been a big deal. the president's own position says you couldn't use these cell phones on military bases because they assume they would be used for espionage and that's why this isn't like a petty politics, the media is after ivanka's story. it's a huge story with consequences not just for today and our national security but our long-term positions in our sort of economic war with china and china is winning that war. >> he's putting personal finances of his family above amer...

Perhaps other means our technology secrets, our industrial secrets, our military secrets as well. and the result is a booming, booming economy. megyn: wow. >> that is making progress by leaps and bounds. megyn: lou dobbs, thank you. >> great to be with you. megyn: well, also this hour, a powerful union in new york now being slammed for its display of defiance after it decides to air its grievances outside a benefit for cancer research. plus, just ahead why a video starring this guy is the hottest thing on the internet today. don't go away. [ malennouncer ] it's tt time of year again. time fo...

>> espionage is a fact of state craft unfortunately. it's gone on since recorded history. certainly the russians have had a terrific record of espionage against this country. they have deeply penetrated our society before world war ii and we were allies during that war. so there's no reason to think that they let up in any way. the what you will see is espionage directed at gaining u.s. government secrets and gaining our technology secrets. >> all right. peter earnest from spy museum and deborah feyerick here in new york, thank you very much. appreciate it. "larry king live" starting in just a...