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Shows. if anyone watching these two hearings who had not read the mueller report or learned about the issues, they would have been surprised today because special counsel robert mueller directly contradicts donald trump and attorney general bill barr. >> appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> a lot to talk about, i'll only do this one, former top obama advisor david axelrod and nia mallika henderson and gloria boringer and jeffrey toobin and corey cordero and kirsten powers and former trump campaign strategists and cnn political commentator david urban. if democrats were looking for, you know,...

The money and the guy answering the questions didn't want to be there. don't forget that he told us two months ago, the report is my testimony. >> right. >> if you subpoena me, i'll show up, but he didn't want to be there. >> democrats wanted him to bring that report to life. he was not playing ball? i don't know. to even read his own words after being pressed by ted lu. >> i can understand that. there's a high likelihood if he reads aloud those parts, you might see that cut into 30-second tv ads for democrats across the country or by interest groups who were trying to do that. at the same tim...

Right? where you've got someone from a different generation with an honor code and the justice department told him, don't talk about this. don't talk about that, and he basically said, okay. whatever you want. even though time and time again he refused to answer questions that he could have answered. there were times when he said i'm not going to tell you. i'm not going to say that. then we just opened up the report and found the information right in there. so it's not like there was a legal basis to some of this. i think a lot of this comes down to his style and his unwillingness to become th...

>> all right. some interesting color. congressman, thank you very much for mangling the name. thank you very much for being with us tonight. >> thank you very much, bye, bye. >> democrats were upset after today's testimony. ted lu of california said it was obstruction. obstruction of justice in action. the congresswoman said the same thing. for more, let's turn to jeffrey toobin and washington correspondent for new york magazine who did a profile story on hope hicks just before she left the white house in the spring of 2018. i want to get your big picture take on what we saw or didn't see but ...

Today's testimony. ted lu of california said it was obstruction. the congresswoman said the same thing. for more, let's turn to jeffrey toobin and washington correspondent for new york magazine who did a profile story on hope hicks just before she left the white house in the spring of 2018. i want to get your big picture take on what we saw or didn't see but at least heard about happening in that hearing room. >> you remember on election night at the midterms, like the democrats are retaking the house. they will be able to conduct all these investigations and what do we know after six months? ...