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Quickly. do you accept that argument? i think that argument is very credible. the fact of the matter is, you had gadhafi pledging publicly to go alley by alley to search out people. again, we don't know if he was just going to target rebels or civilians, but once you get into an urban fight like that, the potential for slaughter is dramatic. and we also know that he was advancing on benghazi with this pledge, with his soldiers, and had we not acted, that probably would have taken place, and that city probably would have been the site of door-to-door fighting. the president and the secretary of...