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Nominee. there's something else i want to focus on here. i asked mitch mcconnell yesterday after the lunch and after the ruling on the travel ban case. i said do you feel vindicated in the fact that you blocked merrick garland from sitting on the court, muscle neil gorsuch on and then could have been a 5-4 decision and could have been 5-4 the other direction. he said i'm glad we have a court tilting to the right. this will take the court another direction. democrats have always failed to energize their base when it comes to justices. this is something that the right and the republicans have do...

It's important that the rank and file, the great men and women that compose our intelligence services and the fbi continue to tee up, serve up the truth to power whether the power listens to truth or not. that places a huge burden, i think, on the leaders to ensure they continue to do that. that's going to be a real test, i think, of the resilience of our institutions, which are kind of under stress right now. >> as part of the counter intelligence investigation into what russia was doing, it's now been reported that a confidential informant was used to speak with members of the trump campaign...

Handling that investigation while enduring those attacks? >> well, i think the first point i'd make is today there's, i think, a special burden placed on the leaders of these organizations. dan coates is dni. now gina haspel is director of cia and director christopher wray, to provide to the top cover, so that their organizations can function in as nonpolitical an environment as possible, and that is a tall order these days. this is a burden that i don't think any of the predecessors -- certainly i didn't have to worry about. they do. and it's important that the rank and file, the great men an...

Would already be investigating, a pro forma request that presidents use to show they are involved and engaged in a situation. one of the dangers i think that happens with president trump is we get so used to him doing things that are outrageous and that are over the line and harmful to institutions, that when the really, real dangerous ones happen, people shrug their shoulders are and used to it and what he did in this tweet today, if he follows through that tomorrow, crossing a dangerous red line. presidents in this country do not tell the department of justice who to investigate and who not ...

This, then you'll have some real action on the legislative front. >> neil: more regulation as well. charlie gasparino, thanks very much. seems neal leaving charlie gasparino to talk about god and religion. had to talk about the appeal of faith-based films. gasparino was our tee up for that after this.