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This stuff up, how do you dismantle it? how do you dispose of it? so it is -- the president clearly wants sort of the pictures of this, sort of the programming part of it. it will be amazing if this happens, to see him standing there with the north korean leader, propaganda victory for the north korea's leader, but also a victory for this president, who is so much about the big win, the big victory, the big television presentation of it. and no one thought this would happen, really. in many ways, even after he said it would happen, there was a lot of skepticism about it. so the fact that this ...

Joe, can you do that? can you add some of the things? >> you help. >> i'll help. >> joining us now, democratic congressman steve cohen of tennessee. congressman, thank you for joining us. >> you're welcome, wolf. nice to be on cnn. >> i don't know if you had a chance to watch that one-hour live television presentation, but do you think the president sounded more like a democrat in that meeting? >> he sounded like a democrat and he sounded more like the campaign when he said nice things about planned parent hood and nice things about the dreamers. but when it comes to the law, he's a republican...

Saying she's a partisan person. and one person even called her a partisan hack today, a commentator here. what's your impression? >> i've never met her. i've never talked to her. i would say from the brief exposure to the television presentation, she seemed to be a truthful, straightforward individual. but i don't know. and you and i might be deceived again. >> thank you, ambassador. i appreciate it. when we come back more on yates' testimony about general flynn. plus why she says the president's first travel ban is still unlawful. what do you got? restrained driver in a motor vehicle.

Initially where you had this mysterious young woman at the center of this. we don't know, it's this lurid crime. so the tale of her guilt was such an involving one, as fantastical as it was, it was also very captivating to the public. >> john, did you notice changes in the way she conducted herself, again, based on the television presentation, was there a change in her demeanor, her eye contact, how she was looking and so forth between the initial phase and more recent? >> i would certainly say there's a dramatic change between a lot of the images we saw earlier on. there was sort of an inappr...

Herself? again, based on the television presentation? was there a change in her demeanor? her eye contact? how she was looking and so forth? between the initial phase and more recent? >> well, i would certainly say there's a dramatic change between a lot of the images that we saw earlier on. which is needless to say, there was this sort of inappropriate mysterious smiling which people didn't know what to make heads or tales otails of. i can't believe there were public relations advising her to do this. often she was pictured in public looking down with a fearful look on her face and she looked...