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Most part think it's bad. so that is sort of at the heart of the differences between netanyahu and the white house and also between most democrats and republicans. >> and now we've also got to talk about the funding. temporary extension runs out in a couple of days, right? >> that's right. at the end of the week. i was at the capitol until the wee hours on friday night reporting on this stunning defeat of a bid just to keep the department running for three weeks. conservatives defeated it because they are sticking to their principle saying they do not want to fund the department at all without...

>> when this seems like such a no-brainer when we look at the problems plaguing this country, innovation, progress, education, why is this an issue? >> because i think it's a classic and i like this sort of this as a democrat. classic case of where should government be involved and not. a lot of republican colleagues don't think the government should help middle-class families put their kids through college. willing to put loans out there only if the government makes money or breaks even. we feel the government shouldn't do that, help middle-class families go to college. the money you get back...

>> no doubt about it. >> and it's going to test the resolve -- >> and we've got to stand up -- >> and it's going to test the resolve of the democrats. >> and we've got to stand up and be democrats. the people have said to us, please, stop the bickering, go out there and stand up for the middle class. that's what all the polling shows. that's what the election showed. and i'm hoping that mr. boehner, speaker boehner will join us and say to the tea partyers, look, you know, we've got to move on. the country cannot be stagnant, standing in one place. can't do it. >> well, congressman, what about ...

Standing in one place. can't do it. >> well, congressman, what about moving on with the likelihood of a kick the can down the road type of deal, where there would be some kind of temporary extension. do you think democrats would fall prey to that? >> i hope not. i want us to get a deal done. but i can tell you that a bad deal is -- i'd rather have no deal than a bad deal. and so, i don't know exactly how -- i mean, if the republicans keep playing these games, we may very well go into 2013. but i'm hoping that we'll be able to resolve it. because zandi is absolutely right. the more we show that...

Probably doesn't know an unemployed person. >> it's shocking to me that that kind of rhetoric is coming out, even now. i want to bring in luke russert, who covers capitol hill for nbc news. luke, thank you for joining us, as always. >> reporter: sure. >> we have many questions for you. >> reporter: okay. >> but i guess one of the first ones is , can you update to the situation regarding the payroll tax cut and the extension of the unemployment insurance? >> reporter: the story has developed quite a lot in the last hour, alex. and the reason why is senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell, essen...