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Decoration under the stafford act which is the president initially shade he would declare and a public health emergency. what's the difference? >> i think a lot of people have been using those terms interchangeably. national disaster. national emergency. public health emergency. they are different things. and what we are hearing this is going to be is a public health emergency. the big difference here, brooke, really has to do with the size and scope of what we are calling it here. with the public health emergency, first of all, it's not -- there is not federal dollars being let loose. this is...

>> greta: could you secure that border, is it possible? >> well, it is, now know -- look, there's secure and there's sealed. sometime i think in washington, d.c. people use the terms interchangeably. but you cannot seal a border. you can't seal the tucson sector. you can't seal this sector. tucson sector particularly difficult part of it is mountainous, part is tribal lands, that we have no absolute rights on. part of it is right next to -- you have two major urban areas next to each other separated only by a strip as wide as the distance between the two of us. it is a sector that has every ki...

>> greta: could you secure that border, is it possible? >> well, it is, now know -- look, there's secure and there's sealed. sometime i think in washington, d.c. people use the terms interchangeably. but you cannot seal a border. you can't seal the tucson sector. you can't seal this sector. tucson sector particularly difficult part of it is mountainous, part is tribal lands, that we have no absolute rights on. part of it is right next to -- you have two major urban areas next to each other separated only by a strip as wide as the distance between the two of us. it is a sector that has every ki...