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A cigar in an ashtray. we raised the flag again and let me tell you two things, the mission we had was to ensure there would never be another catastrophic event. if you had told us 20 years later there would be fewer than 200 people killed in international terror events in america over the next 20 years, we would say, you're nuts. if you had asked a second and final question, the debate will have in 20 years is whether we're successful building a nation in afghanistan, and that's the debate americans will hinge their judgment on, i would say you're nuts. we did. americans, the military, the ag...

In 2001 because they left so quickly. we raised the flag again and let me tell you two things, the mission we had was to ensure there would never be another catastrophic event. if you had told us 20 years later there would be fewer than 200 people killed in international terror events in america over the next 20 years, we would say, you're nuts. if you had asked a second and final question, the debate will have in 20 years is whether we're successful building a nation in afghanistan, and that's the debate americans will hinge their judgment on, i would say you're nuts. we did. americans, the m...

Bum vest on and so we cleared house and got out of the way. >> usman khan and his previous terror events, he is pakistani by origin and was 19 when he was arrested with eight others for a plot to bomb london's stock exchange. this was back in 2010. his original sentence was reduced partly because he pled guilty. khan was released in prison in 2018 on license, which is a form of strict parole to serve out the second half of his sentence from home. with us now from london is terrorism expert sargin gomel. always good to see you, sir. the interesting thing here, police were on the scene so very q...

Terrorist with it. another bystander attacking the terrorist with a fire extinguisher. police identifying attacker at usman khan released from prison early last year after a 2012 terror conviction for plotting to bomb the london stock exchange. cnn's mark bolden is in london tonight. mark, english officials are facing tough questions by khan was even let out of jail early last year. >> yes, absolutely. and the universality of the praise for emergency services in the general publish and the brave actions you've just seen, now universality about the criminal justice system, questions about this ...

Other side didn't like it. they stormed and vandalized our capitol. it's not the way we should be approaching our political differences. we ought to try to find areas of agreement. charles, here's the good news. on the big issue, the overall goal, we want a safe and secure america. we are concerned about each other. if we were as political figures, able to concentrate on the goals, we could do better in terms of ramping down the rhetoric and providing greater civility. >> charles: certainly feels that that is always a knee-jerk reaction, particularly with recent terror events. we mad an immedi...