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You would be hard pressed to think this was some kind of thug. there has to be an ideological motivation. indeed, it's worth remembering belgium in january of this year busted up a -- as many as 20 sleeper cells of pro-isis terrorists who were running around belgium. these guys, the belgian intelligence services accused of plotting terrorism attacks in france, in the netherland, in germany. >> so, michael, let me jump in because i want to give you details just coming to us. this has been coming to us via video from a press conference lives in paris. the prosecutor said he was looking at jihadi...

>> senator barrasso one of the challenges for the french experts is that these individuals apparently spoke fluent, unaccented. there's a very easy way for people to get from the middle east to europe and back. that's a particular challenge that europe faces more so than we do. >> you're absolutely right. thousands that have gone from europe pretty easily into the fight with isis in iraq in syria. when you take a look at those beheadings of the american hostages, that seemed to be a british accent well spoken. so easily returning back to the the -- to their home countries. and then either dire...

O older broer the, but he is a terrorist, and so would you argue that is the best way to get justice in the case and the best way to offer peace to the families? is. >> i don't have all of the facts. the constitution clearly require n s that the government permit a defendant like mr. tsarnaev to introduce whatever mitigating circumstances he believes would justify a lesser penalty. in the case of another man who was convicted in new york for his terrorism attacks, he was sentenced to life rather than death. and so we must see all of the mitigating evidence other than in newspaper reports. >> a...

The rest of the world. it seems like inside the walls of the vatican, that is where the big change is coming. if what we've heard is the truth, he is going to shake things up in the vatican in a way they have not been shaken up. >> and save the church. >> and he's trying to get people on board as he does that. you can see that process going on. >> number two. >> number two, a sad story we all obviously all remember too well. but talk about this. >> what's interesting, there were a lot of horrible things that happened this year. there were other terrorism attacks, the thick in kenya. this one s...

Funding, cr x we're always hearing of. it's an inefficient way to fund the nation and the process costs extra. our next guest has seen this up close and personal, how ugly the budgetary process can be. he served as an aide on the super committee which was the last time congress tried to hash out a long term budget. thanks for being here. >> glad to be with you guys. >> let's start with the evolution, travis, how do we go from annual budgets to piecemeal crs and what does it look like on the inside when you're negotiating? >> it's important to have historical perspective here. crs are used ofte...