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Security adviser, mary schiavo, she currently represents victims and families of transportation accidents. fran, first of all, you issued reporting tonight from his sources, they seemed to be moving away from the idea that this could be terrorism, stolen passport, perhaps part of a human smuggling ring, what do you make of it? >> it's natural investigators were going to teich ever take the lead they had, stolen passports from thailand, austrian and italian, paid for in cash, same travel agent, they were going to look at that, and kuala lumpur has a terrorism expert. it was natural the law enfo...

Fran, jim sciutto reporting that they seem to be moving away from the thoughts of terrorism. what do you make of all this? >> it's natural investigators were going to take the leads that they have. stolen passports from thailand, austrian and italian travellers, paid for in cash. same travel agent, they were going to look at that and kuala lumpur has a terrorism expert. it was natural the law enforcement and intelligence communities were going to take that seriously, of course as you begin to run these leads down. now they're going to look at, if it's not terrorism, is it a larger criminal net...

So-called softer targets. let's bring in terrorism expert and jane harmon, an expert on security issues is, president and ceo of the wilson center here in washington. paul, what are you hearing about these so-called terror threats against softer targets, not necessarily right inside the olympic village but just outside? >> well, woclf, there's a lot o concern that these terrorist groups in the caucasus could launch attacks somewhere in southern russia like they did in volgograd. there was a twin suicide bombing there, one against a railway station, one against a trolley bus. real concern that ...

Head. in our next hour, major security concerns just six weeks ahead of the winter games after russia gets rocked by a second suicide bombing. at least 31 people are dead and dozens injured over the last two days alone. we'll talk to a terrorism expert to see how worried travelers should be. can democrats turn the minimum wage movement into a winning strategy ahead of the midterms? and time is running out for the family of a 13-year-old girl who is declared brain dead after tonsil, surgery. the court order expires in three hours. the family is still waiting to hear if another hospital will...

Welcome back to "hardball." late today kenya's interior minister said security forces over there were now in control of the mall that terrorists seized on saturday. the terror attack has been a bloody reminder that large scale attacks remain part of our world. it was carried out by the al-shabaab group an offshoot of al qaeda. the mall looks as though it could be in a suburb of any american city making it an enticing target for terrorists. edwin coleman is a terrorism expert and don berelli is with the terrorism task force. it struck me and i spent a lot of time our family has over the last 34...