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Involved with some sort of drug smuggling or human trafficking? >> stolen passports are involved in a lot of other things than terrorism and generally speaking, elicit migration, drug smuggling, narcotics. this is much, much more likely to be the case here than any sort of terrorism connection, and in the absence of any other information, we should be careful in suggesting there's any terrorist connection here. >> evan kohlmann, jim tillman, thank you both, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. checking the news feed this morning, in a stunning new interview, the father of adam lanza...

More than 50% more. also in sports, an injury from celebration. this one will be from a high five. but first a developing story overnight. for a second night in a row, officials have found what they're calling dry ice bombs at los angeles international airport. one exploded, but they're said to be relatively harmless. officials tell nbc crews recovered at least three this restricted areas including one below a plane. a similar device, a 20 ounce bolt with dry ice inside of it, exploded in the bathroom of a restricted area of a different terminal on sunday night. that one did zero damage. right...

Queried, our questioner ring the providers for whether they have those business records related to a reasonable articulable suspicion of a foreign terrorist connection? >> i think jointly the fbi, and nsa are looking at the architectural framework of how we actually do this program, and what are the advantages and disadvantages of doing each one. each case, as you know from our discussions, if you leave it at the service providers you have a separate set of issues, in terms of how you actually get the information and how you have to go back and get that information, and how you follow it on, a...

Be a judge who would say, the russians alerted us to these guys. can we keep looking at their phone stuff and a judge will say no? >> i don't see that going through. you have to show a terrorist connection. martha: that would have been helpful. >> they have not been able to show a foreign terrorist connection to this. maybe it's there. but there is no prov -- there io proof even after the fact. until you have that you cannot use fisa and prism. that proves how much american citizens are being protected sometimes at the risk of their their own safety. you are saying because when didn't catch th...

Sufficient grounds to look into one's e-mails and he was an american citizen. martha: one was an american citizen and one wasn't. from the context of this larger discussion when you are looking at this huge collection of data, it ought to be when somebody is tipped off by the russians and they say we checked them out and we are fine. wouldn't you continue to look at their phone records and internet as a matter of course because we have been alerted to them? if that's not the case -- i'm searching for the knowledge. that there is an efficiency in this program. >> first of all unfortunately when...