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Civilians, but it's up to the rebels, up, actually up to the opposition to do that job. >> now, do you believe that the rebels are people that want freedom, like egypt seems to have, those people that were in tahrir square today and yesterday or do you believe there's a terrorist element there? >> well, i believe at least that tunisia and egypt, leadership of the opposition world were known from us. we know, they were interviewed and knew about them even before the uprising began and that's not the case in libya and that's why i'm calling on the united states and on the international community...

I think if you want to talk about the ku klux klan, let's have a hearing about ku klux klan. let's have a hearing about al qaeda and what they are trying to do. they have blood of all americans on their hands, including muslims. let's do it that way. there's a lot more to be gained by targeting the real owe fendz e -- offenders. >> sir -- >> the only way you get community engagement is by engaging the community and building trust. >> is this a matter of vocabulary -- >> no. >> if congressman king had called it -- >> no, it's not a matter of vocabulary. it's a matter of how do you build trust w...

One with hundreds of militant and 34 members of the banned political parties in the muslim brotherhood were set free as they overtook a facility. now on the lam in egypt. protest in egypt are largery out of people being unhappy with the government. if the current government is overthrown, could the terrorist element take power? joining us to talk about it is tom ridge. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you. >> shannon: the situation is changing hour by hour. what is the current take? >> first, i think at least today it appears that most of the demonstrato and most of the demonstrations ...

Into as he claimed the former agent said. we invited him on the program. the secretary said he was unavailable and the invitation spans. he is not the only texas lawmaker making this argument. a republican state representative came on the program to debate the topic of immigration in general and talked about the exact same thing. she was joined by a colleague on the democratic side, but take a look at what she said about the terror baby idea. the representative said pregnant women are coming as tourists and having babies and going back home with a nepharious purpose of turning them into terror...

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